Prometheus : Coming of an Alien Prequel

(Still collating)


a) Several years after Alien Resurrection, Ridley went back to Fox surprised that the following three sequels had never asked four questions that he had in mind.
1. What was the ship?
2. Who was the pilot, 
3. The hold had eggs in it,  what were the eggs? They looked like a cargo.
4. And what was the creature? Who would create such a monster and for what reason,
He told them "You know, I can revive this, revitalise the whole idea of Alien because we can not waste him, he's too important not to answer questions about who, why. for what purpose and why"

b) See also: The doorway to the next chapter

c) April 2009
The revelation came that Ridley Scott was toying around with the idea of doing an Alien prequel. In May it was unveiled that he would act as producer with his brother Tony and Michael Costigan. However his protege Carl Rinsch would helm the movie.

Rinsch was a member of Ridley Scott associates, Tony considered him one of the family. It might have caused some concern at the time because he hadn't actually made a full length film before, but he was a top video and commercial director for the company who was also known to be romantically involved with Ridley's daughter Jordan.

The idea was to do two prequels and this would lead to first Alien film, but at the time getting one film out was enough on Ridley's mind.

Fox appeared to want Ridley to direct the film instead of an untried film maker and soon he was persuaded.

Carl Rinsch

d) April 2010
They had written the fourth draft , they would film in 3D since it was an exciting thing to do in light of the success of James Cameron's Avatar.


e) December 1st of 2011
Tom Roth is brought to comment on the release of the Prometheus trailer saying that it was unfair.



f) Karl Rinsch drifts away to make 47 Ronin
Karl Rinsch would go on to make 47 Ronin instead and this would be released in 2013




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  1. In April it was revealed that director Ridley Scott is “toying around with the idea” of doing a Alien prequel or reboot. Bloody Disgusting‘s sources claim that Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott and even Tony Scott are all on board to produce a new film in the Alien series, with commercial/music video director Carl Erik Rinsch at the helm. Rinsch is also a member of Ridley Scott’s production company RSA. No details about the plot or timeline (we’ve heard the words “reboot” and “prequel”), but apparently the plan is to return to the original idea of one alien on one spaceship. (May 27th, 2009, http://www.slashfilm.com/carl-erik-rinsch-to-direct-alien-remake/)
  2. Update: First Predator, Now It’s ‘Alien’ Being Remade. I know I defend (some) remakes, but there are those occasions that cause me to vomit a little in my mouth and then brush my teeth for hours trying to get the taste out. I just got back from spending an hour in the bathroom and no matter how hard I brushed, how much toothpaste I used, or how much mouthwash I swished, the taste just wouldn’t go away. Alien is getting the ol’ reboot treatment, courtesy of the fine folks at 20th Century Fox. Read on for the skinny. Update (12:07am, May 28): We just heard from a separate reliable source that Fox is possibly working on an origins story, as opposed to a straight-up remake. Still… In January we broke the news that Robert Rodriguez’s Troublemaker Studios would be producing a reboot of Predator for 20th Century Fox. Our regular tipster was proven correct once again as the story was confirmed in April. Our tipster even scooped us on who would be penning the remake, now titled Predators.
    So Mr. Anonymous is back again. And being that 20th Century Fox is remaking Predator, it doesn’t surprise me at all that Fox is also going back to their catalog for a reboot of Ridley Scott’s Alien.
    What our tipster informed us is that – opposite the Predator situation – the plan is to stick with the original concept of only one alien on the ship.
    Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott and even Tony Scott are all on board to produce and have tapped Carl Rinsch to get beyond the camera and bring a new Ripley to the big screen.
    Who is Carl Rinsch? I’m being told he’s a commercial/music video director and does work for Scott Free Productions, who is also producing the remake.
    In the original, the terror begins when the crew of a spaceship investigates a transmission from a desolate planet, and discovers a life form that is perfectly evolved to annihilate mankind. One by one, each crew member is slain until only Ripley is left, leading to an explosive conclusion that sets the stage for its stunning sequel, Aliens (my favorite film of all-time).
    We’ll keep you posted on any updates, but that’s what we got for you this evening. Remember to take it as rumor until confirmed as many projects change through the course of development. (
  3. A few days ago, Bloody-Disgusting reported that 20th century Fox was going to remake “Alien” and director Carl Rinsch would be helming the movie. Immediately fandom exploded with venom. I think one of the main reasons is that the original is a classic, and 20th Century Fox hasn’t been making films of that caliber recently. So at today’s junket for Tony Scott’s new film “The Taking of Pelham 123″, I went up Tony after the press conference ended to ask him what was up with the remake.
    The big news is he confirmed Carl Rinsch would be directing it and that it’s a prequel to his brother Ridley’s classic!
    What Tony told me is after the jump:

    Collider: 20th Century Fox is talking about remaking or redoing the original Alien. What’s going on with that?
    Tony Scott: Yes, Carl Rinsch is going to do the prequel to Alien. He’s one of our directors at our company.
    Collider: I’m going to be blunt about this. Fox has not been doing a great job recently with their movies.  They haven’t been an artist friendly studio. Are you guys going to have some creative control and make this a kick-ass film?
    Tony: Yes! But Fox is our home. They finace our production company.
    Collider: And I’m very happy that you guys have the financing. But a lot of the films they’ve been doing at the studio level, they’ve been nickel and diming and not giving fandom what they want. So I guess my question for you is…are you a little nervous about reengaging the franchise or are you excited.
    Tony: I’m excited cause Ridley created the original and Carl Rinsch is one of the family.
    Collider: When do you envision this film getting in front of cameras?
    Tony: Hopefully the end of the year.
    Collider: Will it be a summer of 2011 movie?
    Tony: Honestly, I don’t know.
    While I wish I could give you more info, I only had moments to talk with him. Look for more “Alien” info as I get it. ( http://collider.com/exclusive-tony-scott-confirms-carl-rinsch-is-directing-alien-and-its-a-prequel/May 29th 2009
  4. A prequel to Alien is in the works, but who is going to direct it?
    When word leaked earlier this week that Ridley Scott was working on a prequel to his 30-year-old sci-fi classic, the original Alien, fans pounced on the news. But the project may have already hit its first speed bump: The filmmakers and Fox, the studio that owns the rights to the franchise, seem to have conflicting ideas about who should direct. Scott plans to produce and had handpicked commercial director Carl Erik Rinsch — whose ads for German electronics company Saturn are known for their futuristic flourishes — to make his feature debut. Rinsch’s selection is complicated by the rumor that he’s romantically involved with Scott’s daughter, Jordan, also a commercial helmer. (Reps for both Jordan Scott and Rinsch did not respond to calls to confirm.) Sources at Fox, however, tell EW that the studio is not interested in greenlighting a prequel unless Scott himself directs. Scott and his reps didn?t respond to calls for comment. But Tony Scott, Ridley’s brother and producing partner, was unequivocal in his support for Rinsch when asked about the project last weekend at the junket for his movie The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3. ”Carl is doing the prequel to Alien,” Tony told a reporter from Collider.com, before adding: ”I’m excited because Ridley created the original and Carl is one of the family.” Just which ”family,” personal or professional or both, was unclear. — Christine Spines (Entertainment Weekly, June 5th 2009
  5. It seems like plans for a remake of a sci-fi classic has hit a little snag. According to Entertainment Weekly (as reported by The Playlist), it seems that director Carl Rinsch might not be at the helm of the new Alien prequel. The site is reporting that 20th Century Fox is reluctant to greenlight the film with Rinsch, primarily a TV commercial director, at the helm and wants to have director Ridley Scott at the helm. Rinsch has worked for Scott's company, RSA, for years now and the site also claims that Rinsch not only works for Scott's company, but is romantically involved with his daughter, Jordan.Neither Scott nor Rinsch responded to the site's initial report. (http://movieweb.com/carl-rinsch-not-confirmed-to-direct-alien-prequel/ June 9th 2009) 
  6. Fox can’t decide between commercial director Carl Erik Rinsch, or famous British director Ridley Scott, to helm the sequel of Alien. In April it was revealed that Rinsch was thinking of doing an Alien prequel or reboot with Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott, and Tony Scott as producers, but now 20th century Fox is not too happy with the idea of having a first-time director as the leader of another Alien—they want Ridley Scott.(http://screencrave.com/2009-06-09/alien-remake-ridley-scott-or-carl-erik-rinsch/ June 9th, 2009)
  7.  So it begins: Ridley Scott vs. Carl Erik Rinsch: Scott has made a decent amount of great films: The Duellists (1978), Thelma & Louise (1991), Gladiator (2000), Matchstick Men (2003), American Gangster (2007)…Rinsch has never made a great film; he has never actually made a film.But Scott also has a large amount of bad films: Tristan and Isolde (2006), A Good Year (2006), Body of Lies (2008), and Kingdom of Heaven (2005)…Rinsch has no bad films on his IMDb list; he actually doesn’t have an IMDb account. (http://screencrave.com/2009-06-09/alien-remake-ridley-scott-or-carl-erik-rinsch/ June 9th, 2009) 
  8. Alien Remake: Ridley Scott or Carl Erik Rinsch: Although Scott has a streak of great films and a lot of experience to make Alien a great hit, many times a Director’s first project can turn out to be a masterpiece. Take the independent film Moon by first-time director Duncan Jones; like Rinsch, Jones comes from a commercial background, and his debut film Moon has been a great success so far. Tony and Ridley Scott have both given Rinsch the final approval on producing his Alien sequel, but Fox hasn’t given Rinsch the green light as director.
    Might Fox feel that an Alien sequel is too big of a film to give to a first-time director such as Rinsch? Or does Fox want to play it safe and go with a director who has already filmed Alien?
    Scott has agreed to help produce the film, and now it is all up to Fox to give Rinsch’s commercial background a chance.Should Fox risk it, or should they play it safe? (http://screencrave.com/2009-06-09/alien-remake-ridley-scott-or-carl-erik-rinsch/ June 9th, 2009)
  9. Alien’ prequel takes off: Ridley Scott attached to return as director; Twentieth Century Fox is resuscitating its “Alien” franchise. The studio has hired Jon Spaihts to write a prequel that has Ridley Scott attached to return as director. Spaihts got the job after pitching the studio and Scott Free, which will produce the film. The film is set up to be a prequel to the groundbreaking 1979 film that Scott directed. It will precede that film, in which the crew of a commercial towing ship returning to Earth is awakened and sent to respond to a distress signal from a nearby planetoid. The crew discovers too late that the signal generated by an empty ship was meant to warn them. The deal gives Fox another chance to keep the “Alien” franchise alive. There were three sequels to Scott’s original, but it is the first time the director has set his mind on directing one. Spaihts has become a go-to-guy for space thrillers. After Keanu Reeves became attached to his Warner Bros. sci-fi script “Shadow 19,” Reeves hired Spaihts to write the space journey epic “Passengers,” which is berthed at Morgan Creek. That script got Spaihts the meeting with Fox and Scott Free, and he won the job with an “Alien” reboot take that the studio and Scott loved. Fox has separately hired him to rewrite “The Darkest Hour,” which Timur Bekmambetov to produce with Tom Jacobson. Spaihts is writing “Children of Mars” for Disney and Scott Rudin, and he will follow by rewriting “St. George and the Dragon” for Sony and Red Wagon. (http://variety.com/2009/film/markets-festivals/alien-prequel-takes-off-1118006722/ July 30, 2009 |)
  10.  Ridley Scott will direct Alien prequel: The director is set to return to his groundbreaking 1979 film that introduced moviegoers to 'facehuggers' It's the news that fans of the original Alien film have longed to hear – Variety reports that Ridley Scott is to return to the franchise he launched in 1979, taking the director's chair for a prequel. Twentieth Century Fox's announcement is unfortunate news for Carl Rinsch, a TV adverts director who was Scott's original choice to take the reins on the new film. Some reports had suggested Fox was unhappy with the idea of an untried film-maker resurrecting the slasher-in-space series, and wanted Scott to step up from his original role as producer. It now looks like Fox has got its man. The new film will be set before the events of Scott's 1979 film, in which the crew of a commercial towing ship respond to a distress signal from the empty ship, only to discover too late that the signal was meant to warn them. The prequel will be Scott's first science fiction project since Blade Runner in 1982 and will be based on a script by Jon Spaihts, who seems to be Hollywood's sci-fi writer of the moment. Apart from the Alien prequel, Spaihts is also working on Shadow 19, which has Keanu Reeves attached; Reeves in turn has hired him to write "space journey epic" Passengers. Spaihts is also reportedly scripting Children of Mars for Disney. Scott, 71, is currently filming Robin Hood, which appears to have dropped its original name, Nottingham – it stars Russell Crowe as the outlaw, with Cate Blanchett as Maid Marian.
    There have been four films in the Alien series, plus two spin-off Aliens vs Predator films, which brought Scott's xenomorphs together with the extraterrestrial hunters spawned by John McTiernan in 1987. The prequel looks like it will be the first Alien film proper not to feature the iconic figure of Ellen Ripley, played by Sigourney Weaver. (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2009/jul/31/ridley-scott-alien-prequel)
  11. Carl Rinsch to helm '47 Ronin': Commercials director was loosely attached to 'Alien' prequel Carl Rinsch may not be directing the "Alien" prequel. But he's got a pretty good alternative.The commercials director, who had been loosely attached to the reboot of the sci-fi franchise, has landed the gig to helm "47 Ronin," the samurai pic that's set up at Universal with producers Scott Stuber and Pamela Abdy. "Ronin" centers on a group of 18th century samurai who set out to avenge the death of their master. Keanu Reeves is attached to star in the film. Chris Morgan, who counts "Fast & Furious" and "Wanted" among his writing credits, penned the screenplay. The CAA-repped Rinsch is the commercials wunderkind who made his name directing spots, many with futuristic themes, for the likes of Mercedes and Heineken.
    He had originally been reported as attached to "Alien," but reports later broke that Fox preferred Ridley Scott direct it himself (he had been on board only to produce). While there is no official word on "Alien," Rinsch now likely won't direct the prequel.
    Samurai tales were for decades a staple in Japan, where movies like Kobayashi's "Harikiri" and Kurosawa's "Sanshiro Sugata" and "Seven Samurai" became broad hits. In the U.S. their audience has often been limited to a more arthouse audience, though Hollywood tried most notably in 2003 with Ed Zwick's "The Last Samurai," a Tom Cruise starrer that earned $455 million globally.
    (http://screencrave.com/2009-06-09/alien-remake-ridley-scott-or-carl-erik-rinsch/ Novmber 17th 2009)
  12. Carl Rinsch Is Directing ’47 Ronin’ Instead Of The ‘Alien’ Prequel. Filmmaker Carl Rinsch isn’t the last samurai, but the once rumored “Alien 5” director could well be one of many ronin. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Rinsch will assume the role of lord and master — and, of course, director — over “47 Ronin,” Universal’s samurai film that Keanu Reeves has been attached to star in for some time. Chris Morgan, who previously described the film as borrowing elements of “Gladiator” and “300,” wrote the most recent draft of “47 Ronin. The movie is based on a Japanese legend of 47 samurai who are left leaderless after the death of their master, who is forced to commit seppuku after a disgraceful incident. The masterless samurai warriors embark upon a year-long vengeance quest against the man most responsible for their lord’s death. Reeves would play one of the ronin, with the actor’s half-Asian heritage a reported focal point of the movie. Rinsch’s name was most recently thrown around in connection with the upcoming “Alien” prequel over at Fox. Mostly known as a unique commercials director, Rinsch would have made his major filmmaking debut with “Alien 5” under guidance from original director Ridley Scott, who would produce the film. Ultimately, Rinsch was passed over for the job, mostly because Fox wanted Scott himself to direct “Alien 5.” The filmmaker has since agreed to the job, but whether or not he’ll get to the project before “Brave New World,” “Monopoly” and a whole host of other potential films remains to be seen. In the meanwhile, Rinsch has a nice consolation prize in the form of “47 Ronin,” which is sure to have a similarly massive scope as the “Alien” franchise, albeit in a more reality-based fashion. I’m excited to see what he does with the material. (http://www.mtv.com/news/2434469/carl-rinsch-is-directing-47-ronin-instead-of-the-alien-prequel/ November 18th 2009)
  13. Ridley Scott Confirms ALIEN Prequel Will Be Shot in 3D and He Wants to Make 2 Prequels! by Matt Goldberg : At the junket for Robin Hood, Steve asked director Ridley Scott whether the upcoming Alien prequel would be shot in 3D.  Scott’s answer: “Absolutely.” However, he mentioned that the problem with shooting in 3D is that you can’t shoot in low light.  Since an Alien movie obviously can’t be all sunshine and rainbows, they’ll be working on the lighting issue in post.
    Steve’s on his way home from the junket and he’ll update this story with more details.  However, it’s good news that Scott will be shooting the prequel in 3D rather than try to convert it in post.  It’s even better news that he’s already made the decision and is actively trying to figure out how to make it work for his movie.
    Steve here.  I’ve updated the story with everything Ridley Scott said about shooting the Alien prequel in 3D.  I also asked him if he’s been approached to convert any of his older films – like Blade Runner – into 3D.  He said he has been asked, but he’d rather use his energy for something new.
    The other big news from the interview is he said he’s developing two Alien prequels!  When asked if he was going to shoot both together, he said, “at the moment I’m just trying to get the first one out.”  In the next few days I’ll have the entire interview posted, look out for it as it’s a great one.  Hit the jump for more:

    And just to be clear, this interview was part of a mini press conference I got to take part in for Robin Hood.  Also, for a lot more info on the Alien prequel, click here.


    Question:  Everyone in this room knows what you’re going to do next.

    Ridley Scott:  Alien, yeah. We’re doing that now. We’re on the fourth draft. It’s alright; it’s pretty good…
    Question:There has been a lot of talk about you doing that in 3D.
    Ridley Scott:  Of course, it’ll be 3D.

    Question:
    Are you going to use the James Cameron 3D cameras?

    Scott: 
    No, I think they’ve already moved beyond.  Jim said that this technique, which had taken them four years, he’d said that now you could do it in two. Technology’s shifting all the time. I could have converted Robin Hood. They’d said last October, I could have squeezed it under the hammer and got it in as a 3D version of Robin Hood.

    Question:
    But doesn’t it make more sense to compose in 3D?

    Scott: 
    It’s not a big deal. People always agonize whether it’s 1.85 or 2.35 and I don’t really give a shit.  It’s your eye and how you’re going to fill the frame.  If you’ve got an eye, it’s not a problem. If you don’t have an eye, then they turn it into science.  You’ve got a lot of conversations going on and that’s why it takes forever and it shouldn’t.

    Question: I’ve always heard you want as much light as possible.

    Scott:  That’s the downside.

    Question: But isn’t Alien almost the antithesis of that because the movies have always been about shadow and darkness and hiding things.

    Scott: 
    That’s what Jim said. The problem is you’ll have to grade it later. You’ll have to grit your teeth and light it not the way you’d like it. And then later, you’re gonna have to regrade it. Repaint it. In fact, Avatar, when you think about it, is almost a completely animated movie.
    Question: Can you now make an Alien movie that has the patience and same style as the first movie and it’ll still work for audiences?

    Scott:  I think it’ll work.  Don’t you?

    Question:
    Yeah. The original still does.  But I think audiences are now acclimated to things that have more energy.

    Scott: 
    But that’s 29 years ago that film. Now to say, “Do you want to recut it?” at the time, I thought, “Not really. Leave it alone. It is what it is.” But would things move faster today? Yeah. I had no technology at all. I had no digital technology at all. Even the ones that followed started to have tech. Like, digital rails and tracking. I had no computers at all. Alien was literally all physical. Even the spaceship, which would be about as big this table, you’d hang it from a wire and the camera would slowly push in underneath and you’d try and keep it steady as possible with a fan and a lot of dry ice blowing at it to give some sense of movement. That was it. It’s pretty good actually.
    Question: With all these movies like Titanic and Star Wars and Lord of the Rings possible going 3D, could you ever see yourself revisiting your previous films and doing a post production conversation?   For example a Blade Runner?
    Scott: 
    You can virtually order it. I can go to a company saying, “Can you re-3D this?” It’d be quicker if I sat there and did it with them, which I would have. It’s when you’re grading a movie, I’ll sit there with a grader, we’ll flick to one scene, I’ll give ‘em two frames and say, “Like that.” You can do the whole film that way.

    Question:
    Has anyone come at you to consider converting any of your past films?
    Scott: 
    Yeah.

    Question:
    And your thoughts are?

    Scott: 
    Not really. I’d rather save that energy for something new. We could have done this in 3D, but everyone was so hesitant. We didn’t bother because the film’s good enough.
    (After the interview ended, we went back to asking about the Alien prequel:)

    Collider:
    You’re developing the Alien prequel, are you developing it as a series of films or a longer storyline?

    Scott:
    It’ll be two.  It’ll be prequel one and two.  Then Alien 1.

    Collider:
    Are you going to shoot the prequels together or shoot them separately?

    Scott:
    At the moment I’m just trying to get the first one out.

    Collider:
    While who knows if two films will ever happen, if you’re a fan of the Alien franchise, how can you not be excited.

    (http://collider.com/ridley-scott-confirms-alien-prequel-will-be-shot-in-3d/
    April 23, 2010)
  14. Ridley Scott plans two-part Alien prequel:  Ridley Scott-directed Alien films are, it seems, a bit like buses: you wait 30 years for one, and then two come along at once. The veteran British film-maker, who was at the LA press junket for his new film Robin Hood, told Collider.com that he was planning a brace of 3D prequels to his classic 1979 slasher-in-space flick.

    "It'll be two," revealed Scott. "Prequel one and two, then Alien 1." Asked if he would shoot the two films back-to-back, he responded: "At the moment I'm just trying to get the first one out."

    Scott announced in July that he would be directing a prequel to Alien, but the second film is a new development. He also said that the screenplay for the first film was into its fourth draft, with a release date planned for late 2011 or 2012. Finally, Scott said he planned to shoot the films in dazzling brightness to help the 3D process, before darkening the screen in post-production to suit the franchise's sombre tone. Scott had originally intended to be a producer on the Alien prequel, with his protege Carl Rinsch, a TV adverts director, taking the reins. But following reports that studio 20th Century Fox was unhappy with the idea of an untried director, it was announced that the Gladiator film-maker himself would be behind the cameras. The new films, as announced last year, will be set before the events of Scott's 1979 film, in which the crew of a commercial towing ship respond to a distress signal from an empty ship, only to discover too late that the signal was meant to warn them. Three sequels and two Aliens Vs Predator spin-offs followed, but only James Cameron's 1987 Aliens lived up to the original. The prequels will be Scott's first science-fiction project since Blade Runner in 1982.
    (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2010/apr/27/ridley-scott-alien-prequels-3d Tuesday 27 April 2010

  15. Allocine: Originally you wanted to distance yourself from the Alien Covenant,  with with with Covenant you wanted to distance yourself from Alien. What made you change your mind, was it the script or the challenge or?

    Ridley: No, the, er, to jump backwards, after the first Alien, I,. in the, I was surprised that that following three never asked four questions,  what was the ship, who was the pilot, the hold had eggs in it,  what were the eggs, they looked like a cargo and what was the creature, So who was, this already a question, who would create such a monster and for what reason, they never asked the question, so I went to Fox after a little time, about five or six years and said "You know, I can revive this, revitalise the whole idea of Alien because we can not waste him, he's too important not to answer questions about who, why. for what purpose and why, and so we came out with Covenant (Prometheus) which starts to open up the door. Covenant now answers answers a lot of the questions left in Covenant (Prometheus) and in in in in , Prometheus, and Covenant now ends with a lot of questions about what will happen next, and that's what's already been written. (http://www.allocine.fr/article/fichearticle_gen_carticle=18663572.html)

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