a) O'Bannon's criticisms of Ron Cobb's derelicts
Dan O'Bannon admired the art of Ron Cobb but Ron's only problem as a designer was that he was a rationalist and it came to Dan's attention when they started designing the Alien picture back in Los Angeles. All the things that Ron was doing were coming out so well that Dan had him take a crack at the derelict ship, asking for an irrational shape, but Ron became very disturbed to the point of not being able to handle doing such a thing. And it went that Ron would continuously come up with convincing technology for a flying saucer or some other kind of UFO
- Dan O'Bannon: "The only problem was that he was a rationalist. I noticed this when we first started designing the picture. All these different things he as doing were coming out so well that I decided to have him take a crack at the derelict spaceship. But when I asked him to come up with an irrational shape he got very disturbed. He couldn't handle that. He kept coming up with convincing technology for a flying saucer or some other kind of UFO." (Cinefex 1, p43)
b) i) An alien derelict:
A design for the alien derelict space craft made up from curved shapes that could easily contain the space jockey design that he created.
- Future life #23 in an article about Ron Cobb, it mentions briefly that craft was to be destroyed, without any further word about this. (this needs to be found to make sure it's documented properly)
A concept painting showing the remains of a man made ship and a cylindrical tower with human explorers wandering around shining their torches. This was for a version of the script in which the crew of the spaceship find a lost Earth base where previous travelers fought a losing battle with aliens
(See: The Cylinder script)
|Manmade derelict -"Black Ship and Cylinder"|
- The Book of Alien says about this picture that the searchers find a lost Earth base where previous travelers fought a losing battle with aliens.
- At the bottom of the painting as shown in the Alien from the Quadrilogy DVD set released in 2003, there is a copy of the picture and presents at the bottom of the picture the ominous words "Black ship and cylinder". This painting was a concept for a version of the Alien script known to some as the Cylinder script